Notes - week of 2020/10/26

 Learned about PON1 and PD yesterday by attending web conference presentation by Beate Ritz:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5922777/

Anthocyanins increase PON1 and are thought to protective against PD, but they also increase NO production - hmm ....

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Vitamin D levels are decreased in PD:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7267215/

"After the discovery that the VDR and 1α-hydroxylase, the enzyme that converts vitamin D to its active form, were highly expressed in the substantia nigra, it was hypothesized that inadequate levels of circulating vitamin D may lead to dysfunction or cell death within the substantia nigra (, )."

Active vit D (calcitriol) is mainly produced in the kidneys, as is klotho. a-syn is produced in the kidneys throughout lifespan. 

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Chronic kidney disease prevalence is lower in PD patients:

https://www.mdsabstracts.org/abstract/prevalence-of-chronic-kidney-disease-in-patients-with-idiopathic-parkinsons-disease-in-a-tertiary-care-hospital-in-mexico-city/

Interaction of a-syn with ENaC?

Larger epidemiological study from South Korea says that CKD is a risk factor for PD:

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/310...

There's another study from Europe that has the adjusted odds ratio for PD in CKD as 0.83 (95%CI 0.42–1.67):

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/330...

The Mexico City study findings, if true, are really interesting. It looks like the study  has not been published in a journal, so I will just give up on it for now.

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Is a-syn expression increased in PD not caused by SNCA duplication or triplication? 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/22355802/

"A comprehensive study of multiple brain areas showed that membrane-associated monomeric α-synuclein levels were only modestly increased in the substantia nigra, and not in other brain regions, of PD patients compared to controls; even so, the levels in some PD cases were within the spectrum of control values. In contrast, in MSA, the membrane-associated α-synuclein increase was robust in vulnerable brain regions (). It may of course be that neurons with the highest expression levels of α-synuclein are most vulnerable and succumb early in the disease process, giving their place to glia, thus confounding the results. To partly circumvent this issue, performed laser-capture microdissection studies, and reported a considerable increase of SNCA expression in surviving nigral neurons derived from PD brains compared with controls. However, this increase did not appear to be specific for SNCA (). Therefore, the issue is still open."

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Of course I was not able to give up on the CKD and PD thing. I wrote about it on a forum: 

" There is an interesting study showing that a-syn is protective against kidney fibrosis:

nature.com/articles/s41467-...

a-syn interacts directly with the cell cytoskeleton, and apparently not via ENaC. However, since ENaC interacts bidirectionally with the cytoskeleton, then to me that means that a-syn can affect ENaC - which is very interesting and why the Mexico City study caught my attention in the first place. I suspect that susceptibility to PD and similar illnesses is related to differences in ion channel function/expression.

This brings up the question of whether a-syn production is generally increased in PD (it is, of course, in cases caused by SNCA duplication or triplication) and whether it increases along with progression. These seem reasonable questions to ask since sometimes if a protein becomes non-functional feedbacks are triggered that increase its production to try to make up for the loss of function."

and then I referred to the 2012 review quoted above. 

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Does this solve the MSA 'sodium paradox' - one would expect that the high salt diet that people with MSA use to mitigate orthostatic hypotension would cause increased neuroinflammation and increased rates of progression, but it an MSA mouse model found it doesn't - neuroinflammation increased a bit, but rate of progression was not increased by HSD. https://jneuroinflammation.biomedcentral.com/track/pdf/10.1186/s12974-020-1714-y.pdf

Human studies of HSD in multiple sclerosis, which like MSA is a demyelinating neurodegenerative disease, also did not find increased progression. 

Does HSD decrease a-syn expression from feedback from cytoskeletal changes (have to check and see if that actually happens)? If so, why are anti-fibrotic flavonoids (e.g., anthocyanins) associated with lower PD risk? They also increase expression of PON1. Is there a relationship between HSD and PON1?

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Acai extract increases erythropoietin production in mice by inducing 'hypoxic condition' in the kidneys:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7071527/

might not be due to anthocyanin content:

"However, C3Glc [ cyanidine-3-glucoside ] alone did not alter the erythropoietin or Epo levels (Figure 2),"

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6562914/ 

"PON-2 is located in the membrane of the mitochondria and in the endoplasmic reticulum. ... Among the three paraoxonase enzymes, PON-2 is the only one expressed in nervous tissues []."

"In vitro studies suggest that PON-2 can regulate the activity of epithelial sodium (Na+) channels [ ENaC ] by modulating its intracellular traffic and surface expression."

" Studies in mice have shown that both PON-2 concentration, mRNA expression and lactate activity of the enzyme are different between males and females. The high concentration of PON-2 in brain (in females, about three times higher than in males), protects neurons and astrocytes against oxidative stress toxicity and lipid peroxidation []."

"The enzymes PON-2 and PON-3 interact with mitochondria coenzyme Q10 [ CoQ10 ], leading to decreased oxidative stress [,]."

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Cetaceans lack PON1 activity: https://youtu.be/S36zqLDrecI?t=203

Do they have PON2 or PON3? Yes.

"A recent study by the Clark group identified a convergent functional loss of PON1 but not for PON2 or PON3 in marine mammals (79)."

https://www.jbc.org/content/early/2020/02/20/jbc.RA119.011789.full.pdf

 

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  1. Rhyothemis, I am following your blog now. Thank you so much for keep sharing the preciouses information as you always do! I am learning so much from you and grateful for this opportunity.

    Hope all is well,
    Oksana

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  2. My NCG immunodeficient 4months old male mice perform worse on the fear conditioning test than the 12months old NCG male mice. Older immunodeficient male mice seem remember the "shock" trauma better than the young immunodeficient male mice. Any thoughts?

    Thank you,
    Oksana

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    1. That's interesting. They need to be reared germ-free, right? So no microbiome and age-related gut microbiome changes.

      Perhaps this relates to my question on Deanna Benson's presentation on LRRK2 and development - 'do these LRRK2-G2019S mice have a dissociative disorder?'
      https://youtu.be/xaP8mE1j4CE?t=3631
      So maybe it is something to do with with LRRK2 expression changes over time?

      The other thing I came across recently about fear response in mice is Andrew Huberman's work on stimulation of the ventral midline thalamus:
      https://youtu.be/OSwQSb-Cb7U?t=535
      { Huberman is interesting but I do wonder at some of his advice. To young males he says to refrain from ejaculation since it increases aggression levels. Hmmm.. that's what I think when I watch the evening news - 'what the world really needs is more aggressive young males' / sarcasm. }

      I can't help but think mast cells play a role in fear response, so I wonder if mast cell function is altered in your NCG mice - but why the normalization of behavior in the older mice? { Theoharis Theoharides has done a lot of work on mast cell involvement in neuropsychiatric conditions and also Teodor Postolache has done some interesting work. }

      Do you know if myelination is delayed in NCG mice?

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  3. Thank you! Brilliant as always.

    Extremely interesting observation regarding dissociative disorder in mice. My older NCG mice actually were singly housed - just because their cage mates died by the testing time. While young NCG mice remained grouped housed but still remembered less. Positive effect of immunodeficiency on social avoidance?

    I think this is maybe why my single housed female rats with disk degeneration model do not create pain association on Van Frey test? Well... they were paired to begin with but then were separated before the testing just to prevent exposure of post operation wounds during interaction with each other.. (such a mistake)

    Can you please elaborate some more regarding mechanism of associative amnesia behavior in rodents?

    Huberman is interesting. Makes me of an idea of life threatening: give up your life to create a new one and aggression needed to survive this, like disinhibiting before getting tremors in HD. No time to freeze.. (sarcasm)
    Almost proving philosophy, for example, Rupert Everett: you live with death. you breath it with your breath. each breath is over. go higher or go lower.





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    1. Sorry, I have nothing to offer on the mechanism of dissociative amnesia. I just suggested it as an alternative hypothesis to 'the mice are stupid'; unfortunately I don't know how one would test it. It would be great to have an animal model of dissociative disorders, though.

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    2. Perhaps functional MRI could be used to test differences in the LRRK2-G2019S mice vs control when presented with the scent (I'm assuming mice recognize each other mainly by scent) of a previously encountered aggressive mouse and regular mouse as well as new 'stranger' mice (aggressive and non-aggressive) and see if there are differences in activation, perhaps there would be some differences in the thalamus.
      There was a structural MRI study of people with dissociative disorder that found differences in the thalamus as well as other regions: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4275327/
      If it turns out to be the case that these mice have differences in thalamic activation then I would be interested in further study of mast cell function in the thalamus.

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    3. Dear Rhyothemis. Thank you so much for your thoughts and the links - very very helpful. I am working on this. Sorry.. got overwhelmed with my family but will write soon.
      Hope all is well,
      Oksana

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    4. Good to hear from you. Hope the pandemic is not too bad where you are. We are staying at home and eagerly awaiting the vaccine - though it will be a while before we get it.

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  4. Apparently fMRI has its issues:

    Why are some scientists turning away from brain scans?
    https://apnews.com/article/why-some-scientists-turn-away-brain-scan-b778a88a0b7c781e75e2f8c7c49e9421

    The article mentions an alternative - functional near infrared spectroscopy. It has been applied to rodents, using miniaturized components: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5582298/ (but I wonder how difficult the set up is; I've always marveled at how researchers manage to study such small creatures).

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